Apothecaries and Tithes

[meepleater]

No, sorry, I forgot to mention that having an apothecary in a city only gives 5 points if that city is besieged...

[Gantry]

LOL, I've just finished watching a Disney Film when I read this and the thought that went through my mind was "Carcassonne Central, where all your Caracassonne dreams come true!". 

Good idea.. added to the forum newsticker!

[Novelty]

I thought you said no trade.  My bad.  I'll add it into the next version.  I forgot about the apothecary giving half points if it was besieged and half point at the end of the game if it was uncompleted.  I'll add those into the next version as well.

I've also got your 6 tiles.  Do you think you can make 6 more so that I can make a second sheet?

Edit: Gantry, where's the newsticker?

[meepleater]

hmm... I have no need to make any involving forests as I don't use the forest expansion, but you can add some tithe barns into tiles which involve forests... (but, still they must remain in fields)

[Novelty]

I had the time so here are the new tiles, and the updated rules.  No more new tiles please... if you want new tiles, start a new expansion for it, otherwise, this expansion will never be complete   I've not included tiles with Forest because I think that warrants its own expansion.

Updated rules
New Tiles

Edit: OK, please read through and see if there are any more things that needs changing.  Let's aim to get this completed before the end of the year is up

[Gantry]

Edit: Gantry, where's the newsticker?

Assuming you have the forum header section expanded (+/- on the right side), it is a small line of text immediately above the forum menu, below your avatar.

[meepleater]

wow, tiles are nice!

[meepleater]

The rules are good... did you mention an apothecary in a besieged city, or did I just miss that?

Edit: Just a thought; when using K&S, should an apothecary count as say, 2 extra tiles to help get the king?

[Novelty]

I don't think apothecaries should count extra to help the king.  It already gives extra points AND tokens that can be exchanged.  I think it is too good already.  Nothing in the existing game does that.  Making it better would just unbalance the game.

And here's v3 of rules with the sieged/besieged cities part added in.

[meepleater]

very good...

I think that for the herb tokens you stated that you may immediately trade it with another person, but how about clarifying it a bit further by saying soemthing like 'after that turn, no further exchange may be made'.

Also, I have changed my mind about who gets the herb token/s.

Previously;
1. Owner.
2. Person who has the least goods.
3. Placer of the finishing tile of the city.

I think that 2 is a bit irrational and possibly not fair... at any rate something about it anoys me...

apart from that I think that it's almost completed...

[Novelty]

OK, revised to version 4

[meepleater]

good as well... possibly unfinished apothecaries do not score? Or apothecaries do not stack?

Almost finished

[Novelty]

They don't stack as they are written.  But it will be nice to add a footnote to say this.  I will add it in the final version.  However, like all trade goods, they give the trade tokens in a completed city - that is stacked.

Also, there is no statement that an unfinished apothecaries (how are they finished anyways?  do you mean apothecaries in unfinished cities?) score anything.

Edit: Anything more?  If there is nothing more by Christmas Eve, I'm gonna assume that the rules are completed

[meepleater]

Yes, incompleted cities with an apothecary 

It's Christmas morning here in Australia...

[Novelty]

I guess this is like the Christmas roast... done   Zip file (3.5MB).