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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2009, 03:01:53 PM »

I don't have that game, and it's low on my priority list. Anybody else want to supply measurements?
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2009, 04:56:45 PM »

They are 7 cm square or 2.75 inches.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2009, 06:23:00 PM »

Wow, that big huh? Thanks for the info.
I was just wondering because it would be cool to make a large game of the original Carcassonne by printing off images onto those tiles.  It probably wouldn't be worth the money though since The Children of Carcassonne comes with 36 tiles and you need 72 for the base set of Carcassonne.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2009, 05:21:28 PM »

Two sets of Children = one big Carc set  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2011, 10:13:55 PM »

The forum isn't letting me edit the original post, so I'll unfortunately have to provide additional information here. I picked up Bridges, Castles, and Bazaars yesterday, along with City v2. The batteries in my scale and my caliper were dead, so I had to pick up new ones today. Checked the scale using a 50g calibration weight, which gave a result of 50.08g. That means the following mass values may be approximately 0.08g too high. I don't have anything to check the caliper with, but I did reset it to zero a few times before doing any serious measurements.

Bridge: 45.63mm long x 24.37mm tall x 10.27mm wide - 4.77g
Castle: 36.40mm wide x 29.68mm tall x 2.20mm thick - 1.22g

Carcassonne: The City

Long wall: 43.69mm long x 14.93mm tall x 8.91mm thick - 3.50g
Short wall: 34.44mm long x 15.07mm tall x 9.00mm thick - 2.93g
Tower: 15.53mm diameter x 33.87mm tall - 2.89g
Meeple: 15.98mm wide x 16.24mm tall x 9.93mm thick - 1.12g
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2011, 10:33:56 AM »

Is the meeple for the City 2 game the same as the first one, or a new one?
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2011, 06:13:00 PM »

Looks the same to me, but I never bought the first one so I can't be 100% sure.
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2011, 03:14:29 PM »

Went to the store today.  Smiley

10th Anniversary Edition

Scoring Track: 220mm* wide x 220mm* tall x 1.83mm thick - 40.88g
Tiles: 45.08mm wide x 45.08mm tall x 1.89mm thick - 2.70g
Meeples: 15.82mm wide x 15.85mm tall x 7.98mm thick - 1.43g
Box: 233mm* wide x 233mm* tall x 65.10mm thick (I don't normally measure the box, but since it's meeple-shaped I thought somebody might be interested.)

* Measured with a ruler; may not be exact.

The Phantom

Meeples: 15.82mm wide x 15.85mm tall x 7.98mm thick - 1.43g
Box: 58.44mm wide x 58.82mm tall x 23.83mm thick - 23.15g (empty)

Naturally I couldn't resist and had to buy one of each color of the box. Grin

The Dice Game

Dice: 15.94mm x 15.68mm x 15.77mm - 5.25g
Box: 110.00mm x 109.50mm x 41.61mm thick - 69.46g

I triple-checked the caliper measurements on the dice and got the same numbers each time. You would expect dice to be perfectly square, but apparently not. The dice line up perfectly with each other regardless of orientation, so you can't really tell the difference just by looking at them. I wonder if this makes the catapult side more likely to occur?
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2011, 07:59:16 AM »

The Dice Game

Dice: 15.94mm x 15.68mm x 15.77mm - 5.25g
Box: 110.00mm x 109.50mm x 41.61mm thick - 69.46g

I triple-checked the caliper measurements on the dice and got the same numbers each time. You would expect dice to be perfectly square, but apparently not. The dice line up perfectly with each other regardless of orientation, so you can't really tell the difference just by looking at them. I wonder if this makes the catapult side more likely to occur?

Interesting, are the catapults on the largest face and opposite each other? Or are the faces all random?
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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2011, 09:23:11 PM »

The catapult face is opposite of the meeple face. To the right of the catapult is the CCFF joined face. Left of the catapult is CFCF (two opposing half-rounds). Above the catapult is CCCF, and below is CCFF unjoined. Each die is identical. The question regarding largest face is interesting, so I'll do the math:

Catapult: 15.93mm x 15.86mm = 252.6498mm^2
Meeple is on opposing face and therefore same size.

CCFF joined: 15.86mm x 15.89mm = 252.0154mm^2
CFCF is on opposing face and therefore same size.

CCCF: 15.93mm x 15.71mm = 250.2603mm^2
CCFF unjoined is on opposing face and therefore same size.

The catapult and meeple faces are indeed the largest. I did some poking around on the Internet, and it looks like my suspicion is confirmed: the largest face has a higher chance of coming up.
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« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2011, 09:59:07 PM »

Wow, that looks tedious.  You are to be commended.  Grin
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2011, 03:12:34 AM »

The catapult face is opposite of the meeple face. To the right of the catapult is the CCFF joined face. Left of the catapult is CFCF (two opposing half-rounds). Above the catapult is CCCF, and below is CCFF unjoined. Each die is identical. The question regarding largest face is interesting, so I'll do the math:

Catapult: 15.93mm x 15.86mm = 252.6498mm^2
Meeple is on opposing face and therefore same size.

CCFF joined: 15.86mm x 15.89mm = 252.0154mm^2
CFCF is on opposing face and therefore same size.

CCCF: 15.93mm x 15.71mm = 250.2603mm^2
CCFF unjoined is on opposing face and therefore same size.

The catapult and meeple faces are indeed the largest. I did some poking around on the Internet, and it looks like my suspicion is confirmed: the largest face has a higher chance of coming up.

The largest face will have the higher percentage of landing because the center of gravity is shifted in the die. You essentially have a rectangle. Therefore, the catapult and meeple have an equal chance at coming up, but higher than the other faces. I wonder if that was intentional for game mechanics. In other words did RRG determine that for balance those two faces needed to come up at a certain rate versus the other faces? That's an interesting discovery. You normally assume dice to be equal and represent pure chance. This is more like engineered chance.

The true test will be measuring other sets to see if these findings hold.
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« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2011, 05:15:30 PM »

Other RGG sets would have been made using the same dies, so I expect them to be the same. However, HiG sets are made in a different factory so I'm curious if they are perfect cubes or similarly engineered.
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« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2011, 06:48:35 AM »

Other RGG sets would have been made using the same dies, so I expect them to be the same. However, HiG sets are made in a different factory so I'm curious if they are perfect cubes or similarly engineered.

Are the graphics painted on or embossed?
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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2011, 01:47:04 PM »

They're painted on. I've never seen embossed tiles in any game that I've played.
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